Chicago Cashflow Breakfast Club: REI Education & Networking event - 4/19

1000 N Milwaukee Ave, Ste 100, Chicago IL, 60642

Meeting Summary for Chicago Cashflow Breakfast Club: REI Education & Networking event - 4/19

Quick recap

The meeting covered various aspects of real estate investing, including different investment strategies, financing options, and potential challenges. Participants introduced themselves, shared experiences, and discussed topics such as house hacking, the BRRRR method, and the importance of networking in the real estate industry. The group also explored concepts like adding value versus creating value in properties, as well as potential issues that can arise during renovations and the importance of thorough research and planning in real estate investments.

Summary

Startup Ecosystem and Basketball Investment

The group discusses various topics, including Instagram, music, and a startup ecosystem. One participant mentions starting a startup ecosystem to get answers and have support from a group. The conversation then shifts to basketball, with a focus on how coaches evaluate young players, particularly in Africa and Canada. The discussion touches on the investment and potential in young basketball players, with decisions being made by age 16 based on their potential.

Real Estate Investing and Networking

In the meeting, Quality expressed gratitude for everyone's participation and emphasized the importance of learning and sharing experiences in real estate investing. The group also acknowledged their sponsor, Kenya Coffee, and its mission to provide clean water for a village in Kenya. New members, Jake and Jonathan, introduced themselves and shared their experiences as real estate agents and investors. The group also discussed the importance of networking and the need for active participation in the meeting. Judith shared her personal motivation for real estate investing, which is financial freedom. The conversation ended with member introductions, where everyone shared their reasons for being there and their experiences in real estate investing.

Diverse Real Estate Investors Share Experiences

The group conducts introductions, with attendees sharing their backgrounds and interests in real estate investing. Participants range from experienced investors and brokers to newcomers looking to get started. Many express interest in networking, finding partners, and learning from others in the room. Several people mention specific areas they focus on, such as commercial properties, fix-and-flips, or house hacking. The introductions highlight the diverse experiences and goals within the group.

Real Estate Investment Strategies Discussed

Quality discussed the differences between active and passive income, emphasizing that all real estate investing is active and requires management. They outlined six investment paths: traditional house hacking, cash flow snowball, accidental investor, gypsy investor, and flips and cash flow. The focus was on the burr method, which involves buying properties with minimal down payment and low cash flow. Participants shared their experiences with house hacking, highlighting the importance of screening roommates and managing the property effectively.

Real Estate Investment Strategies Discussed

The group discusses various real estate investment strategies, including house hacking, cash flow snowball, BRRRR (Buy, Renovate, Rent, Refinance, Repeat), accidental investor, gypsy investor, and flip to cash flow paths. They highlight the pros and cons of each strategy, such as debt-to-income ratio limitations, self-sufficiency tests for FHA financing, and tax implications. The discussion also covers different financing options like DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) loans. After presenting the strategies, the group decides to take a 15-minute break for networking, with participants numbered off to mix up the seating arrangements.

Real Estate Basics and Licensing

Quality discussed the basics of real estate and suggested that learning through YouTube and Google searches could be beneficial. He emphasized the importance of understanding residential and commercial aspects of real estate and advised getting a license. Quality also mentioned the possibility of working for a real estate company and the importance of understanding the law. He suggested that learning about accounting for real estate could be helpful.

BRRRR Strategy: Adding vs. Creating Value

The group discusses the concepts of adding value versus creating value in real estate investments, particularly in the context of the BRRRR (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) strategy. They define adding value as improving existing features to maximize property value within its current category, while creating value involves elevating the property to a new comparable range, such as adding bedrooms or bathrooms. Quality shares her experience with a challenging BRRRR deal, including unexpected issues like termites and structural problems, which led to significant cost overruns. The discussion also covers important considerations for BRRRR investments, including ARV (After Repair Value), AARV (After Repair Rental Value), and refinancing strategies.

Burr Renovation Cost and ROI Discussion

In the meeting, Quality discussed potential issues that could arise during a Burr renovation cost, such as lower Arv appraisal than expected and lower rent than anticipated. Quality suggested researching the neighborhood and being conservative when setting expectations. The group also discussed the importance of having a reliable team of contractors to avoid project delays and increased costs. Quality shared examples of common issues that could occur during a Burr, emphasizing the importance of working backwards to determine the renovation costs and after renovation value. The group also discussed the concept of a "perfect" Burr, where the initial investment is fully recouped through refinancing. Quality also highlighted the potential impact of increased renovation costs on the return on investment (ROI) and the importance of still considering a deal as good even if some money is left on the table.

 

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